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Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael: Individual vs. Collective
Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael: Individual vs. Collective
Jul 21, 2026
46:30
Title: **Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael: Individual vs. Collective**Timestamp Breakdown:* **00:00-02:43:** Recap of previous discussion on the mitzvah of living in Eretz Yisrael, its various interpretations, and the concept of Divine will for Jews in and outside the land.* **02:44-04:46:** Introduction to the topic of collective Aliyah and the Rash Bash's view on the oaths preventing a mass Aliyah, specifically not to hasten the end of exile or use force.* **04:47-07:22:** Discussion on the elusive source of the oaths and the Rash Bash's interpretation regarding not hastening the end of Galus (exile). The speaker touches upon the unique modern situation where the land was granted by the UN.* **07:23-08:33:** Example of B'nai Ephraim attempting to leave Egypt early and their destruction, as a cautionary tale against hastening the end.* **08:34-10:04:** Distinction between individual Aliyah (permissible) and national Aliyah (not permissible) according to the Rash Bash and Marsha, especially when it involves force or hastening the end.* **10:05-13:46:** Debate on whether the oath applies to individuals, the impossibility of regulating individual Aliyah to prevent a collective violation, and the conclusion that there's no individual obligation to go.* **13:47-18:03:** The question of going to Eretz Yisrael with permission from governments/UN. Marsha's view: permission makes it permissible.* **18:04-20:20:** Nishmas Cholchai and Yoel Moshe's counter-argument: even with permission, it can still be considered "Yad Chazaka" (strong hand/force) and violate the oath, citing the Exodus from Egypt.* **20:21-23:10:** Rashi's interpretation of "not going with force" (individuals can go, but not with extra force) and the Gemara in Yuma demonstrating that even with permission (e.g., Ezra's Aliyah), not all returned to avoid hastening the end of exile.* **23:11-26:24:** Ramban's "unbelievable" view that Hashem's promise of preservation applies primarily in exile, not necessarily in Eretz Yisrael, and the implications for collective Aliyah.* **26:25-29:56:** The view that going up with permission is still a violation of the oath, and the concern that an early return could lead to further sin and a second exile.* **29:57-32:55:** The shocking view of the Maharal from Prague: even if forced by nations under threat of death, one should not violate the oath and go to Eretz Yisrael.* **32:56-38:59:** The "six oaths" and the extreme interpretation from P'ri Tzaddik: not to "daven too much" for the end of exile, as even prayer can hasten it, illustrated by Moshe Rabbeinu's prayers.* **39:00-43:31:** The purpose of the oath: not to go up "like a wall" even if we feel worthy (Torah and good deeds) or even if there's great evil among nations. It's about waiting for Hashem's revealed will.* **43:32-46:01:** The duration of the oath (some say 1000 years, others indefinitel) and the argument that even if nations broke their part of a reciprocal oath, Jews are still bound by theirs.20 Hashtags:#Aliyah #EretzYisrael #JewishLaw #TorahStudy #Mashiach #Exile #Galus #Oaths #Halacha #Ramban #RashBash #Maharal #Israel #Zionism #JewishPhilosophy #DivineWill #Redemption #Tefillah #RabbinicDiscourse #JewishHistoryBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/torah-with-simcha--4985090/support.Torah with Simcha is produced by Kol Simcha Productions.New episodes released regularly — exploring Torah, Jewish thought, and the wisdom that connects ancient text to everyday life.Contact:
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